Lesson 24: God Cannot Die
Special Note: I have been corrected regarding a very large error in this study. Charles Brown responded to my original study below on released on 9-29-15, which I will still include here for clarity only. But it is wrong. Jesus did die spiritually as well as physically. He began to suffer spiritually in the Garden of Gethsamane, between the third and sixth hour when the sun was darkened, and was completed when He said “It is finished.” I have included brother Charles’ response below the study. God forgive me. Let God be true and every man a liar, including me.
Jesus Christ is God and therefore cannot die. He has always been and always will be and is not capable of dying, nor was he ever capable of dying in the past. The only way He could die to pay for the sins of The Elect would be to become human. Then he could physically die. But He still couldn’t spiritually die because He is God. He is a spirit being who is eternal. But by his physical death as a man, He paid for the sins of The Elect and redeemed them unto everlasting life:
1 Cor 15:21
For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead. [This verse proves that He had to become human in order to resurrect The Elect]
But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man. [This verse clearly states that Jesus had to die by becoming human in order to pay for the sins “of every man”, i.e., every Elect person.]
1 Tim 2:5-6
For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus, 6who gave himself as a ransom for all people. This has now been witnessed to at the proper time. [“The man” Jesus Christ gave himself a ransom for the Elect. And when did He do that? Obviously, when he was a man.]
Even as the Son of man came not to be ministered unto, but to minister, and to give his life a ransom for many. [He “came” refers to when he came in human form, so that He could actually die as a human, and give his life a ransom for many.]
But not as the offence, so also is the free gift. For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many. [“The man” Jesus Christ provided the grace for the Elect. Again, when did He do that? Obviously, when he was a man.]
I say again, Jesus Christ is God and therefore cannot die. He has always been and always will be and is not capable of dying, nor was he ever capable of dying in the past. The only way He could die to pay for the sins of The Elect would be to become human. Then he could physically die. But He still couldn’t spiritually die because He is God. This proves that He did not die before the foundation of the world because He was not made human until 7 B.C.
1 Peter 2:24
Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, [He bare his OWN BODY on the wooden cross for OUR SINS] that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.
I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world. [He came down from heaven to earth to give his flesh (to sacrifice his human life, his body) in order to redeem the Elect living in the world unto eternal life.]
But of the tree of the knowledge of good evil, thou shalt not eat there of it: for in the day that thou eat thereof thou shalt surely die. gen2:17 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of god is eternal life through Jesus Christ our lord. roms6:23
There is teaching today that Jesus Christ, who of course is god, and because he is god, could not and did not die, either before/TFOTW or on the cross. You know its just utterly astounding to me, how despite what the word of god says in reference to salvation and the atonement, that you have false teachings like this today, and notice that they are teaching these false doctrines during JD, when god has clearly removed or taken talents of truth we all once had from those who are not hearing just the voice of Jesus Christ, and not believing god’s word, not enduring to the end.
In gen2:17 god told Adam in the day he eats of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, ye shall surely die.
Now we all know that Adam did not die physically in the day he sinned against god, and that the death that Adam died was a spiritual death. Now in order to die spiritually, that means Adam was a spiritual being, as we’re told in gen1:27 So god created man in his own image, in the image of god created he him: male and female created he them. God is spirit, and being created in the image of god, means Adam and eve were also spirit, as well as flesh. As we’re told in gen2:7 And the lord god formed man of the dust of the ground, and breath into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul/spirit. That means in order for god to save man, he had to die the same death as Adam, to pay the wages of mans sin, which is spiritual death. we read: For in Adam all men died, 1cor15:22 spiritually that is, that’s why we read: Ye must be born again, jh3:7 that is made spiritually alive again from above, by god.
Since the wages of sin is death, spiritual death, that means that god also had to die spiritually to pay the wages of mans sins. But by god’s own requirement, god could not be mans savior as god only. We read: By man came death, by man also the resurrection. Therefore to qualify to be mans savior, god the Word was made flesh, a man. jh1:14 So we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angles, for the suffering of death, hebs2:9 and being found in fashion as a man, humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross. phi2:8 The Word, god the word, was not made a spiritual being, he existed from everlasting, the word was made flesh, a man. So when we hear Jesus saying as he began drinking of the cup of the wrath of god in the garden of gethsemane, my soul/spirit is exceedingly sorrowful, even unto death, mt26:38 Jesus was beginning to die in his soul, as god, as only god could die exceedingly enough spiritually to pay the wages of the sin for all of god’s chosen to be a soldier of Jesus Christ, 1tim2:3&4 soldiers of the cross. jh19:23
The teaching that god cannot die, where is that in the bible? That’s a conclusion incorrectly devised out of the non-wisdom of mans mind and heart. Jesus said, no man takes my life, I lay it down of myself; jh10:18 god is from everlasting to everlasting, and at the death of the son of god, who was and is god, god did not cease to exist, there was still the father and the Holy Spirit. But we read about Jesus Christ who is god, and was god, even when he was on the earth, I am he that lives, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; Rev1:18 Now make no mistake about this, Jesus was saying this about himself, God almighty, I WAS DEAD; Jesus is not saying that only I as the son of man, or as man was dead, Jesus said I am was dead.
Even the limited mind of man should be able to rationalize that Jesus as man only could not pay for anyone sins, for as man he would never come to the end of eternal damnation, but in that he was suffering the wrath of god in his soul, as god, and man, he was able to exceedingly pay the ransom, the price of redemption for all those he came to give his life/soul a ransom for. mt20:28 That’s why we read in the ps16:10 in speaking about the death of the lord Jesus Christ, For thou will not leave my soul in hell; neither will thou suffer thou holy one to see corruption. The leaving his soul in hell/death, is speaking about the death of god the son, which we know god did not leave Jesus soul in hell/death, for at he moment of his physical death, Jesus in his soul/spirit, went to paradise, as he told the thief on his right, today thou shall be with me in paradise. lk23:43 But his body/flesh went into the grave/tomb, yet because the atonement had been made, why Jesus said, It IS FINISHED: jh19:30 all sin paid for, and Jesus was no longer baring the sins of the elect, (the chosen to be a soldier of Jesus Christ, 1tim2:3&4 soldiers of the cross, jh19:23 who preach Christ crucified, 1cor1:23 and as I said before, they who preach Christ demonstrated, and another Jesus, 2cor11:4 died from/TFOT
We, should know, that they are not a chosen to be a soldier of Jesus Christ, a soldier of the cross) and because god’s holy one, Jesus body no longer was baring sin, it was not necessary for his body to corrupt, therefore god did not suffer or allow Jesus body to see corruption, which in itself is proof that the atonement was finished. And Jesus said it is finished, before he had died physically, therefore the death that made the atonement has to be the death of Jesus in his soul, him as the son of god. That’s why we read: And it was about the sixth hour, and there was darkness over all the earth until the ninth hour. It was during those three hours of darkness, that the light of the world was put out, although Jesus was still physically alive.
God tells us in is43:11 I, even I, am the LORD, and beside me there is no savior.
Just as they of the cross a demonstration gospel are denying that Jesus of the cross is the Christ, the messiah, when they say he did not atone for sin on the cross, that he demonstrated what another Jesus, 2cor11:4 did from/TFOTW, those who are saying that Jesus did not die as god on the cross, are also saying that Jesus did not atone for sin on the cross, cause only god/LORD could pay the wages of sin, eternal damnation/death, and therefore they have no savior. And we read: when the lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels, in flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not god, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ; who shall be punished with everlasting destruction/death (both all unsaved mankind, and the angels, who are spirit beings) from the presence of the lord, and from the glory of his power. 2thes1:8&9
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